tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post268127136233596845..comments2023-10-26T03:57:50.903-07:00Comments on Comics Fairplay: Radar Magazine Names Blogging as OverratedHeidi Meeleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01436991028382498324noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-58321605963403054682007-09-17T20:13:00.000-07:002007-09-17T20:13:00.000-07:00Lisa, you make a good point as well. What is it ab...Lisa, you make a good point as well. What is it about Ms. Jong busting on the females out there? I am not sure how metaphorically she meant it, but it left me cold. I found the menstrual comment to be offensive for the most part. I am sure she used it for shock value, so I guess it worked. :-)Heidi Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01436991028382498324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-48958722257193510432007-09-17T20:12:00.000-07:002007-09-17T20:12:00.000-07:00Siskoid, your comment "Probably asked someone at t...Siskoid, your comment "Probably asked someone at the office what "blogging" means and went from there." struck a chord with me. God knows that is probably what happened. People who don't embrace the internet tend to fear it.<BR/><BR/>Interesting point.Heidi Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01436991028382498324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-22000544136887968022007-09-17T20:11:00.000-07:002007-09-17T20:11:00.000-07:00Vaklam, that is certainly true. For the amount of ...Vaklam, that is certainly true. For the amount of crap found online, there is also gold. Obviously Ms. Jong hasn't mined the field!Heidi Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01436991028382498324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-22764705689369915492007-09-17T11:58:00.000-07:002007-09-17T11:58:00.000-07:00siskoid - while I agree that she probably doesn't ...siskoid - while I agree that she probably doesn't even know about us - meaning the comic book fan bloggers, I don't think that she is only referring to politics. <BR/><BR/>Her menstrual comment specifically targets feminist bloggers. Maybe only feminist bloggers who blog about political issues or feminism alone, but still, it was a direct attack against feminist bloggers.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06656871719685145723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-60698451764751670072007-09-17T09:01:00.000-07:002007-09-17T09:01:00.000-07:00Whenever you hear about blogging in the media, it'...Whenever you hear about blogging in the media, it's always those political blogs (the only context in which I've ever heard the word "pundit" as well). So she's not talking about us. She doesn't even know we exist.<BR/><BR/>Probably asked someone at the office what "blogging" means and went from there.Siskoidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08266365376486695812noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-76156596141943459692007-09-16T23:33:00.000-07:002007-09-16T23:33:00.000-07:00Erica Jong?! Ummmm, from the 70's erotica-passing-...Erica Jong?! Ummmm, from the 70's erotica-passing-as-mainstream-fiction Erica Jong?! Two sentences come to mind:<BR/><BR/>1. Whoa, she's still alive?!<BR/><BR/>2. How relevant is an erotic fiction writer from the 70's in 2007?<BR/><BR/>Yeah and wow, reading her rancid retort, I am kind of glad I never picked up one of her novels, especially if anything other then regular sex was involved, bleahhh...Carlhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06642758191046222448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-36444522161359877802007-09-16T21:40:00.000-07:002007-09-16T21:40:00.000-07:00Quotes like Jong's remind me of Andrew Keen's "Cul...Quotes like Jong's remind me of Andrew Keen's "Cult of the Amateur" blather. Yes, there's bad stuff out there but if we threw out entire forms of expression because they contained bad art or crappy writing we'd have no TV or radio or stage plays or newspapers or anything.<BR/><BR/>It's all about scale.Vaklamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14839979414750032302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-28054614616372764922007-09-16T16:42:00.000-07:002007-09-16T16:42:00.000-07:00Lisa, the menstrual comment in general repulsed me...Lisa, the menstrual comment in general repulsed me as well. I felt it went a bit far, but evidently it helped the lady get her point across.<BR/><BR/>I think you and Mark make very important points that fellowship and friendship are valuable currency that is the result of this interaction. Twenty years ago, I would never have been able to meet you- what a sad thought. To know that there are people like you, Nick, Mark, and Elayne out there, just further serves to remind me of the value of this tool.<BR/><BR/>While I agree that not every blogger is bringing greatness to the world, I must certainly yell to the skies that it is the right and joy of all of us to have that opportunity.<BR/><BR/>You speak true Lisa.Heidi Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01436991028382498324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-1726884923797172762007-09-16T16:39:00.000-07:002007-09-16T16:39:00.000-07:00Mark, your remarks hit home with me. I agree that ...Mark, your remarks hit home with me. I agree that the wordsmiths of old are most likely not at all attracted to the new school of thought. Many of the "names" that have risen in the advent of the internet are maybe not the expected glitterati of the past. There isn't a cocktail party atmosphere of elitism. The internet can be a great equalizer.<BR/><BR/>What the internet has done is give everyone a voice, whether it be well spoken, well read, or the polar opposite. Every age and every subsection of our culture can respond to any subject that moves them. That is an astonishing thought to digest.<BR/><BR/>If we are lucky, like I have been, we can meet people and make friendships based on mutual respect and interests. I really feel that way about you and several of the other people that comment here. It is an opportunity for fellowship I would never have otherwise had and I treasure it.<BR/><BR/>Here's a toast to the great equalizer and a big raspberry to Ms. Jong.Heidi Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01436991028382498324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-62606821420031084522007-09-16T16:35:00.000-07:002007-09-16T16:35:00.000-07:00Elayne, that is absolutely true. I love your remar...Elayne, that is absolutely true. I love your remark that "Those who can't do something well usually wind up disparaging it." <BR/><BR/>After reading Ms. Jong's remarks, I was left wondering if she even knows how to turn a computer on.Heidi Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01436991028382498324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-43150777152659051872007-09-16T16:32:00.000-07:002007-09-16T16:32:00.000-07:00Nick. That was incredible. I got a bit misty readi...Nick. That was incredible. I got a bit misty reading it. I like the way you condensed your feelings on this issue to be sure. :-)<BR/><BR/>I have always felt that blogging is a great way to use my First Amendment rights. It is my own little corner of the world, and the sense of community I have felt is unmatched by most other feelings. I am sure that non-comics readers are repulsed in general by my blog, and that is cool with me. It is the fact that I can express myself the way I see fit that drives me, not the adulations of others, even though that is not always a bad end result. <BR/><BR/>Freedom of expression is an inalienable right and for Ms. Jong to believe herself a foremost expert on the subject is a laughable pretense that makes me wonder what she is putting in her coffee.<BR/><BR/>Nick, once again, nicely put.Heidi Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01436991028382498324noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-14193324898128550802007-09-16T11:24:00.000-07:002007-09-16T11:24:00.000-07:00That menstrual part - yikes! One of the most offen...That menstrual part - yikes! One of the most offensive analogies I've read in a long time.<BR/><BR/>As far as blogging being overrated, is writing in a magazine overrated? How is putting her opinion there on paper any more or less important than writing it in a blog? At least with a blog you're not paying to read it. I'm betting she got paid something to write those comments - and I know most bloggers don't get paid.<BR/><BR/>Sure, there are bad blogs out there, lots of them. And sure, there are bloggers who think that their opinion is the one and only opinion on the matter and all others are simply stupid and wrong. But people don't have to read those. <BR/><BR/>Everyone can choose what blog to read, or what magazine to buy, what TV program to watch. There are hundreds of cable and satellite TV stations playing thousands of programs a day, and still they want more because there are still more nitches to fill. Blogging is like that. The majority of people today are information junkies and want hundreds of options to view and read and watch.<BR/><BR/>I know I've met some really great people thanks to my blog and the blogs of others like Heidi, Elayne and Mark. In a smaller community like comic book fandom, people almost <B>need</B> blogs in order to be able to communicate with each other because the small community is spread so far and wide.Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06656871719685145723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-91706240075763830232007-09-16T10:59:00.000-07:002007-09-16T10:59:00.000-07:00"That being said, the comment by Ms. Jong really g...<B>"That being said, the comment by Ms. Jong really got me thinking. What about you? What is your response to her words? Is Radar Magazine right? Is blogging overrated?"</B><BR/><BR/>What I see in Jong's nasty quote is actually a little fear on her part...since most internet-savvy people enjoy material from a wide spectrum of sources...and not just her little "Dead Tree" magazine realm. See, for decade upon decade, self-proclaimed "good writers" like Jong were the opinion-spewers that mattered (or so they thought)...but now the internet has tossed so many of those old assumption and old ways of transmitting information out the window, you can see where some of Jong's venom comes from. <BR/><BR/>Of course, 80% of the blogosphere is either dull, redundant, or amateurish...so I'm not saying everything done by the common man is spun gold...but at the same time, 80% of the so-called "real media" is crap, too....so it all kinda balances out. In the mean time, I get to connect an amazing number of people from around my planet that like the same things I do and, if I'm lucky, I can become their friends.<BR/><BR/>Like you and your hubby, Heidi! In fact, I'd much rather be YOUR friend that a shrill, bitter pill like Ms. Jong.<BR/><BR/>We bloggers will just keep doing what we like to do....to hell with the wordsmith glitteratti. They'll be blogging with the rest of us once the magazines finally drop into the junkheap of history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-90681836558963462932007-09-16T08:01:00.000-07:002007-09-16T08:01:00.000-07:00Blogging is overrated in the same way any writing ...Blogging is overrated in the same way any writing is overrated. It's kind of like Sturgeon's Law, 95% of any entertainment is probably bullshit. But 5% of blogs, any kind of blogs (political, cultural, personal, industrial, etc.), is still an amazing number. For those of us who've been doing one-to-many writing since long before blogging existed, this latest pronouncement is nothing new. Those who can't do something well usually wind up disparaging it.Elaynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15009119466346396986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-86236061533616322002007-09-15T23:16:00.000-07:002007-09-15T23:16:00.000-07:00This probably isn't the most eloquent way of retor...This probably isn't the most eloquent way of retorting back to Ms Jong but, if I were to comment to her how I felt on her opinion I think my thoughts could best be summed up in two words:<BR/><BR/>BLOW ME<BR/><BR/>Firstly people who think blogging is overrated probably don't know where to even read a blog, let alone how to post one. Secondly, blogging in general is a way not just for people in the US to go on about their favorite hobbies, hectic days, etc, but, it is a way for the WORLD to make their voice heard. Though not celebrated in all countries freedom of speech is a human right that should be respected in all it's forms. Sure there are some assholes who blog who I couldn't give a flip about but, in that same breath most people probably couldn't give a horses' ass on how I feel about Booster Gold, or why in the world I still read X-Factor. Community is key I do believe but, more then that blogging has opened up a new avenue for a person to voice their feelings and views on a global scale. Blogging helps us look to other ideas and thoughts, other sides to things, and not just what the general news stations shove down our throat as right and wrong. Through blogging we are provided another avenue from which to comment and define ourselves. <BR/><BR/>Sorry, kinda went on non-sensical rant. The gist of this all was blogging is great and she's a wanker, lol.Nickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15656971247395848847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7747146.post-84674257940239991252007-09-15T21:29:00.000-07:002007-09-15T21:29:00.000-07:00I don't think blogging is overrated, just some of ...I don't think blogging is overrated, just some of the people who blog. The line about "loving the smell of one's own farts" could describe quite a few blogger I've read. <BR/><BR/>Sorry, gang, I'm not naming names. ;)James Meeleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15125466138669301618noreply@blogger.com