Thursday, August 31, 2006
With Stan Lee's wisdom of the ages paired with complex and amazing challenges, the show is good. With the raw emotion and courage of the character involved, the show moves up a level to incredible.
Tonight Fat Momma vies against Feedback to win the whole enchilada. Check it out on SciFi at 9 p.m. and report back. I know I will!
Wednesday, August 30, 2006
It scared me, made my adrenaline pump, and thrilled me. I loved the schlocky humor and gratuitous nature of it all. When Samuel L. Jackson finally utters the key phrase "I am tired of these mother-f*&*king snakes on this mother-f*$*king plane", we all cheered.
I am so glad that we went and saw it in the theatre and got the full effect of the snakes. In real life, I absolutely hate snakes, and fear them with a reverence usually reserved only for family members. That made it even more horrifying, and kicked the adrenaline into overdrive. It was insane.
I have to go sit quietly for an hour or so and let it all creep away!
Snakes On A Plane rules!
Tuesday, August 29, 2006
"WONDER WOMAN NOW ON BIMONTHLY SCHEDULE
Please note that beginning now, WONDER WOMAN will be published on a bimonthly schedule. WONDER WOMAN #3 (JUN060222) is available for advance reorder and is scheduled to arrive in stores on October 11.
All orders on WONDER WOMAN #4 (JUL060198) have been cancelled. This issue will be resolicited in the October Previews (Volume XVI #10), scheduled to arrive in stores in December"
Tears of Aphrodite! My instincts were correct. The book has been made bi-monthly! Here is a list of my guesses on publication:
Issue 3: okay for October 27
Issue 4: week of December 7-10
Issue 5: The end of January
Issue 6: First week of March
Pretty close, huh?
At least now I can quit being pissed about something that no one would explain. Now I can just be irritated about the book being bi-monthly!
All these creators can use all the excuses they want, i.e. Watchmen was late and no one cares; we want the artwork to be perfect; the writer is ill; comic books are art; blah blah blah blah!! Keep those excuses flowing- it all boils down to this: the scheduling done was unrealistic to begin with. Tom Brevoort can do his spin control until the cows come home- the book should never have been solicited before it was at least two thirds complete at a minimum. McNiven's artwork has become very detailed, which has slowed him down, and that should have been taken into consideration.
The lateness of one limited series has now commanded the lateness of a good chunk of Marvel's titles. Maybe it will pay off for the company and the "trade" collectors in the end, but in my mind, it is strictly bad business.
Don't miss "Who Wants To Be A Super Hero" finale Thursday night at 9 p.m. on Sci-Fi. This show has so much heart, it bursts out of the television. If you haven't caught it yet, make an effort- it is worth it.
Has anyone seen "Snakes On A Plane"? Jim and I want to go see it tomorrow or the weekend, and I am curious what the verdict is.
We went and saw "Beerfest" Saturday night. It was just the kind of humor I like: base and crass. I didn't have to think, I could just enjoy. It did make me never want to drink beer again though. Strange.
I am hoping to take advantage of the long weekend and update my sidebar links. John Layman has a blog that is hysterical. Another good one is Jim Demonakas' blog. He is PR guy at Image and founded the Emerald City Comicon. Both of these guys are solid gold. If you get a chance, go take a look.
That's it for tonight. Have a nice Tuesday!
Monday, August 28, 2006
Here is my list of this week's swag!
52 Week 17
Action Comics #842
All Star Superman #5 (cool cover pictured at right)
American Virgin #6
JLA Classified #26
Justice #7 (of 12)
Superman Batman #29
Teen Titans #38
Trials of Shazam #1 (of 12)
Uncle Sam & the Freedom Fighters #2 (of 8)
Black Panther #19
She-Hulk 2 #11
Ultimate X-Men Annual #2
Ultimate Fantastic Four #33
Doc Frankenstein #5 (if my store actually ordered it!)
Savage Red Sonja QOTFW #1 (of 4)
That is it for this lovely week! You all take care!
Sunday, August 27, 2006
1. One book that changed your life:
The Wizard Of Oz by L. Frank Baum
I had seen the movie and loved it, but getting ahold of the book was a revelation. I collected the series and reread them so many times that they are falling apart without mercy. My childhood was very fulfilled by a simple book.
2. One book you have read more than once:
Memoirs of a Geisha by Arthur Golden
Beautiful. Devastating. Descriptive beyond compare. Unreal.
3. One book you would want on a desert island:
A Gentleman’s Game by Greg Rucka
4. One book that made you laugh:
Sex With Kings by Eleanor Herman
Clever anecdotes about royal mistresses throughout the ages.
5. One book that made you cry:
A Gentleman’s Game by Greg Rucka
I don’t want to spoil it- just read it.
6. One book you wish had been written:
My Weird Life- A soap opera by me...
It's still not too late!
7. One book you wish had never been written:
Life Laughs by Jenny McCarthy
I was very disappointed after loving her first two books.
8. One book you are currently reading:
Born to Rule by Julia P. Gelardi
A book about five reigning consorts that were all granddaughters of Queen Victoria. I am fascinated with royal intrigue.
9. One book you have been meaning to read:
The Sisters by Mary Lovell
It is on my book shelf, and I just haven’t gotten to it yet. It is an imposing looking tome and I have had a short attention span lately.
10. Tag five people!
I hate doing this to people. How about this- if you are linked on my sidebar and you haven’t done it yet, go for it! E-mail me and I will link you.
Saturday, August 26, 2006
In now understanding that writer Allan Heinberg will be on the book until issue 6, it seems safe to say that his portion of the run will not be over before Christmas, and may indeed be pushing Spring 2007. With author Jodi Picoult set to take over at issue 7, what does this mean for the future of the book in terms of sales and in terms of shipping dates?
I understand that Heinberg is very busy, and artist Terry Dodson has mentioned that Heinberg is also a perfectionist. This leads me to believe that while Dodson is keeping pace on the art chores, it is editorial and writer corrections that are causing the stall.
I say ENOUGH ALREADY. Quit with the perfectionism and tinkering, and put the product in the readers hands. Please. See, I said please!!
My bets run like this:
Issue 3: okay for October 27
Issue 4: week of December 7-10
Issue 5: The end of January
Issue 5: First week of March
We shall see how close I run on this. If I am wrong and the book comes out sooner, I will be contrite and pleased.
What do you think?
Thursday, August 24, 2006
In short, Wonder Woman #2- what the hell was the wait about? JLA #1- it's okay, but not earth shattering. Batman has been the best read of the week so far.
The good news is that "Who Wants To Be A Super Hero" continues to entertain. Jim and I were both completely enthralled.
Take care tonight! See you tomorrow!
Tuesday, August 22, 2006
Oh well, at least there are new comics coming out tomorrow! Here is the list:
52 Week 16
Birds of Prey #97 (pictured)
Blue Beetle #6
JSA Classified #16
Supergirl and the Legion of Super Heroes #21
Swamp Thing #29
Wonder Woman #2 - Yeah right, I will believe it when I see it!
Astonishing X-Men #16
Eternals #3 (of 6)
Ultimate Spider-Man #99
Ultimates Annual #2
Red Sonja #13
That's it for this lovely week. I am still on Civil War strike, so I am just trying to weed out what's a keeper from Marvel.
Have a wonderful Wednesday!
Monday, August 21, 2006
Contact QEW Publishing here. If you think you have what it takes, this is a great opportunity to work with a class act. Tell 'em Heidi sent you!
Saturday, August 19, 2006
We see two cats from time to time that nap under our front trees, but we have also seen them in our neighbor's yard getting fed, so we are pretty sure they are theirs. We have never complained because the cats weren't doing any harm that we could see. But after today, I am so furious at getting called out for something I didn't do, that I am going to run those cats off at every opportunity.
Fact: I am deadly allergic to pet dander. I can't have small animals around me. This makes getting investigated by Animal Control irritate me even more.
What is worse is that our neighbors are too chicken shit to come over and approach us themselves. I guess it's easier to report someone and hide, huh?
I have enough problems in my life right now. Dealing with this is just the icing on the crap cake I am having to deal with. What's next? I don't even want to think about it.
Thursday, August 17, 2006
With Ultimate Spider-Man #100 due any week now and the record-setting Ultimate Spider-Man #103 establishing Brian Bendis & Mark Bagley as the record-holding creative team at Marvel (having produced more consecutive issues of any superhero series in Marvel history, surpassing the 102-issue Stan Lee-Jack Kirby run on Fantastic Four), it appears that the end of an era is soon approaching. Mark Bagley has confirmed his plans to leave the series after Ultimate Spider-Man #110.
“I’ve had an incredible time with Ultimate Spider-Man,” Bagley told CSN, “but I don’t want to stagnate. Right now, Brian and I are doing some of the best work we’ve ever done on the comic, and I think it’s best for me to leave while we’re on the top of our game.”
While Bagley is moving on to other projects, Bendis will remain with Ultimate Spider-Man, although Marvel has not chosen an artist to take over the title. Of course, there are very few artists working in comics today who can match Bagley’s prodigious output; the artist has produced as many as eighteen issues per year and has still found time to do additional work for Marvel.
So what’s next for Bagley? “I’m not sure what I’ll be doing next,” he said. “I’m talking with Marvel, and they have several books they’re evaluating to see just where they feel I will fit best.” Once that decision is made, of course, you’ll hear about it in CSN."
This is sad news indeed. In my opinion, Bagley and writer Brian Michael Bendis made a wonderful collaboration. Though not legendary like Stan Lee and Jack Kirby (Yet), the fact that this team broke the record for consequtive issues is a testament to their commitment and staying power.
My best wishes to Bagley as he moves on to his next endeavor. I know I will be following the news closely to see where he goes next. Bagley is a creator I want to support.
Wednesday, August 16, 2006
Marvel has announced that Civil War will be delayed, a re-shuffling that will affect not just the core book, but several titles that cross over as well. What a shock... well, no, it isn't really.
The announcement which was posted on Newsarama, goes as follows:
In information released to comic book retailers Tuesday, Marvel has announced that issue #4 and 5 of their hugely successful Civil War series are being delayed.
Civil War #4 [and all its variant cover editions], originally scheduled to be released tomorrow, is now scheduled for September 20th. Issue #5 and all its variants, originally scheduled for next month, is now scheduled for November 15th.
And because of the nature of the storyline, the delays in the main series will affect the related and tie-in titles, like Civil War: Front Line.
In the announcement, Marvel wrote:
“Over the next few weeks, the Civil War proper title and a few of the tie in books that are closely related to the story in the main book will be shipping later than originally planned. In an attempt to accommodate the creative team of Millar and McNiven and keep the artistic integrity and high standards of the event, we will be shifting the following titles:
CIVIL WAR 4 (JUN061952; $2.99) moves to 9/20
CIVIL WAR 4 TURNER VARIANT (JUN061953; $2.99) moves to 9/20
CIVIL WAR 4 TURNER SKETCH VARIANT (APR068201; $2.00) moves to 9/20
FANTASTIC FOUR 540 (JUN061961; $2.99) moves to 9/20
CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE 6 (JUN061955; $2.99) moves to 9/27
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 535 (JUN061938; $2.99) moves to 9/27
CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE 7 (JUL061956; $2.99) moves to 10/11
CIVIL WAR 5 (JUL061952; $2.99) moves to 11/15
CIVIL WAR 5 TURNER VARIANT (JUL061953; $2.99) moves to 11/15
CIVIL WAR 5 TURNER SKETCH VARIANT (JUL061954; $2.00) moves to 11/15
CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE 8 (JUL061957; $2.99) moves to 11/22
PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL 1 (JUL061988; $2.99) moves to 11/22
PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL 1 (Black and White) (JUL061989; $2.99) moves to 11/22
FANTASTIC FOUR 541 (JUL061965; $2.99) moves to 11/22
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 536 (JUL061941; $2.99) moves to 11/22
CIVIL WAR 6 (AUG062033; $2.99) moves to 12/20
CIVIL WAR 6 TURNER VARIANT (AUG062034; $2.99) moves to 12/20
CIVIL WAR 6 TURNER SKETCH VARIANT (AUG062035; $2.00) moves to 12/20
CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE 9 (AUG062036; $2.99) moves to 12/20
PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL 2 (AUG062066; $2.99) moves to 12/28
CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE 10 (AUG062037; $2.99) moves to 1/4/07
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 537 (AUG062018; $2.99) moves to 1/4/07
FANTASTIC FOUR 542 (AUG062045; $2.99) moves to 1/4/07
CIVIL WAR 7 moves to 1/17, Not yet solicited
AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 538 Not yet solicited
FANTASTIC FOUR 543 moves to 1/24/07, Not yet solicited
NEW ADDITIONS TO THE CIVIL WAR CHECKLIST!
BLACK PANTHER 23 CW December 2006
CIVIL WAR: WAR CRIMES December 2006 ONE SHOT
BLACK PANTHER 24 CW January 2007
BLACK PANTHER 25 CW February 2007
CIVIL WAR FRONT LINE 11 February 2007
Also, starting in November some Marvel will be branded as “Casualties of War” -- similar to how they branded titles as “Spider-Man Unmasked” and “Road to Civil War”. Those titles are:
MOON KNIGHT 7
CAPTAIN AMERICA: WINTER SOLDIER SPECIAL
IRON MAN/CAPTAIN AMERICA SPECIAL
MOON KNIGHT 8
In January 2007
MOON KNIGHT 9
“The need for these shifts came about as the September [for November shipping product] Marvel Previews #37 was going to press and we were not able to make adjustments,” reads Marvel’s explanation to retailers. “The December Marvel Previews will reflect the changes and additions. At this point we do not anticipate further changes to the schedule. We apologize for the inconvenience but feel that this is in the best interest of the quality of the event and for retailers to continue to realize the immense sales for these books. We are announcing these shifts early enough in the hopes that retailers can adjust their buying patterns for the next few months. Also, we hope the addition of a few more key Civil War titles will make up for any lost sales that result from these moves.”
Of course then writer Mark Millar hops in with his own spin as follows:
When contacted for comment by Newsarama, writer Mark Millar said:
"All I can say is that I'm as surprised by all this as you are. In fact, I only found out about it when I got up this morning and read my email. But you know what? This is a very cool thing for Marvel do to because it would have been so much easier to just go for a cheap fill-in artist instead of pushing back the books. Steve had virtually no lead-time on Civil War and a title with a million characters has proven much tougher than he expected. He and I both assumed a fill-in would be on the cards at some point, but Marvel credit Steve with a huge amount of our book's success and, as a creator, I'm genuinely stunned they spread the project out by another seven weeks to make it work for him. Marvel really took a bullet here. This pushes a lot of cash into the next financial quarter for them and they've really put product over profit here. I absolutely never expected them to work their entire publishing schedule around an art delay, but it's cool that they did and I totally take my hat off to them. Sure, it's horrible when a book we want is a little late, but I can live with a few weeks if it means getting Steve McNiven every issue. Apologies to readers and thanks to many people who were worried this meant I'd got sick again (I'm doing absolutely fine, thanks). This has been the biggest book of the millennium so far and it's clear people are passionate about waiting. But, honestly, it'll be worth it for seven issues of pure McNiven."
Then the kind people at Newsarama post a story with comments by CW artist Steve McNiven and chronically late Ultimates artist Bryan Hitch. Follow the link here for the scoop.
Editor Tom Brevoort follows it up with his spin at Newsarama as well. Follow the link for that complete interview. I would like to quote just one passage at this point:
Newsarama: Tom, first all, first question has to be a simple "why"? What’s the reason for the delay? Mark Millar and Steve McNiven have suggested it was McNiven who needs time to catch up on the series, as well as suggesting a lack of lead-time going into the series was a factor. Is this accurate?
Tom Brevoort: It’s everything. I’m sure Mark would rather I not push this button, but I’ve got a writer with a chronic condition, and a penciler who’s never had to handle a story of this magnitude before, with this many unfamiliar characters and situations (not to mention this much spotlight pressure.) Plus, it’s just a hard book to do. And we did get something of a late start, though that might have been surmountable if this was an easier sort of project—the first page of issue #1 was sent to me by Steve on January 3rd.
“And not that anybody’s going to believe me when I say this, but these delays aren’t at all because we’re changing the story Armageddon 2001-style. There are some elements that are shifting around —hence the new 11th issue of Front Line — but that’s simply an issue of us having more elements on the canvas than we have space for in the remaining pages. But the ending that you will read will be the same ending we spent two days coming up with at our editorial retreat back towards the end of ’05, the one that Joss Whedon visited briefly. Sorry, conspiracy guys!
BOTTOM LINE FOR ME AS A READER:
It sounds like every one is trying to cover their ass and lead us down the path where candy canes grow on trees and daisies taste like nectar. As a customer, I am dissatisfied, and as a business person, I am underwhelmed by the magnitude of excuses.
Don't solicit this stuff if it isn't in the can. Hire a traffic manager who can keep it all in perspective.
Don't tell the readers it is because you care about quality, and that 10 years from now it won't matter. That is just a bunch of posturing. If all the cogs in the machine were working smoothly then this wouldn't even be an issue. Furthermore, don't point fingers at DC for Infinite Crisis having quality problems- at least they got the book out to the readers. If DC wants to back track and correct the art later for the trade, more power to them. At least the customer who goes to the comic book shop every week is still satisfied as well. Quit pandering to the trade paperback readers and ignoring the guy whose dime enables you to make that collection down the road.
Screw Civil War. I am going to go spend my money on timely products made by companies that want my business.
Monday, August 14, 2006
At any rate, I have quite the list of new books this week, so I better get hopping!
100 Bullets #75
52 Week 15
Green Lantern Corps #3
Ion #5 (of 12)
Girls #16- pictured at right, groovy cover!
Hunter Killer #6
Civil War X-Men #2 (of 4)
Iron Man #11
Ultimate Fantastic Four #32
Ultimate Fantastic Four Annual #2
That's quite a pile of goodies to be sure! I can hardly wait! Catwoman! Checkmate! 100 Bullets! Oh My!
Have a great week!
Saturday, August 12, 2006
To recover from this ordeal, I have been reading my John Constantine: Hellblazer run. There has been so much great talent on the book that it is unreal. Garth Ennis. Warren Ellis. A short spin by Grant Morrison. Jamie Delano. Brian Azzarello. Mike Carey. Whew! Amazing writers all!
I just finished Azarello's impeccable run on the book and am starting on Carey's with issue #174. I know that there is more unholy crap for John to go through, and I look forward to the roller coaster ride.
Until tomorrow though, I am a bad blogger.
Tuesday, August 08, 2006
Artist Jason Metcalf did an excellent job of showing Starfire at her fierecest, while retaining a certain femininity. I also liked the fact that the focus was on the flow, not just her "assets". Nicely done.
This is definitely a keeper.
Monday, August 07, 2006
I am having different artists do sketches of female heroes of Marvel and DC. It has been a great deal of fun to see their interpretations.
At any rate, I wanted to share this incredible sketch from a very talented artist. Not only is Mr. McKone good at what he does, but he is nice as well. It is greatly appreciated.
52 Week 14
Firestorm the Nuclear Man #28
Green Arrow #65
JSA Classified #15
Man Called Kev #2 (of 5)
Martain Manhunter #1 (of 8)
Secret Six #3 (of 6)
Civil War Frontline #5 (of 10)
Ms. Marvel #6
New X-Men #29
Se-Hulk 2 #10
Squadron Supreme #6
Ultimate Spider-Man Annual #2
Ultimate X-Men #73
Wolverine Origins #5
That is it! Have a great week!
Sunday, August 06, 2006
We decided to drive over to Seattle Friday night so we didn’t have to get up too early on Saturday. That was a wise choice, as we had a restful, calm evening. We went to the Hurricane Club for an excellent meal and a couple of beers for me then headed back to the hotel. I fell asleep before 10 p.m. and Jim followed soon after.
The next morning we were up early because of our restful evening. We headed over to McDonalds for our traditional carb loading. I almost had a meltdown because some random asshole parked so close to my car that I couldn’t get it out without hitting there mirror. I stormed into McDonalds, and even though there were police in there breakfasting, proceeded to terrorize the restaurant trying to find the guilty party. Since no one fessed up, I had to very carefully pull out, crying hysterically. I barely missed the mirror, thank God. Randomly swearing, we drove over to the Seattle Center.
Of course, we were the first ones in line. It was 8:30 a.m. and said event didn’t start until 10 a.m. At least we weren’t alone long. Fellow Comic Art Fan Eric came in behind us, and we had a wonderful chat about old school 80’s Metal concerts while waiting. About 9:30, our friends and class “A” retailers John and Randy pulled up. John came over and let us into the con, where we proceeded to catch up. Unfortunately, there was a little “encounter” with Convention Head Steve Miner that left us a bit unsettled, and even a bit alienated. Hopefully it was a one time incident, as we admire and appreciate Mr. Miner very much. I don’t want to get into details, as it wasn’t exactly an international incident. All I will say is this: Steve, we would pay double to get into your con anytime, so our apologies for any confusion.
At 10 am things started rolling, so Jim went over to see Mike McKone, the splendid artist of Fantastic Four. He was incredible, sketching beautiful pieces that astounded all of us. Jim got an awesome Kyle Rayner head sketch, and I got a Ms. Marvel sketch. Mr. McKone was very polite and sweet. I was really impressed. One thing Jim and I didn’t expect was that he had an accent. That just scored even more points in my mind.
Our friend Brian was there, which made the event that much better. Brian is a good guy that Jim met through the Cross Gen boards and continued to talk to at Broken Frontier. He is one of the smartest guys I have ever had the privilege of talking to, and we had a great deal of fun cooking up some ideas for next year that I can’t share just yet.
I had a really nice talk with Quenton from QEW Publishing. His company has great things cooking with Angel Gate. Go check it out if you get a chance. Quenton is the real deal. He is passionate about comics and he is passionate about business, so I look to see much more of him in the future.
Infamous from his inclusion in this week’s Lying In The Gutters, John Layman arrived a bit late with Mr. “I resurrected Bucky” Ed Brubaker. Casual and funny, these two were the life of the party. Because of the size of the con, Jim, our friend Brian, and I actually got to talk to them for a bit. I immediately asked John about his infamy, and he told me that he may show up again in this next week’s column, so I am holding my breath in anticipation. I heard the story about his San Diego con party, but have decided to keep it on the D.L. if nothing else then not to ruin reputations or build legends!
John is a funny, relaxed guy. If you ever see his stuff, go buy it. He is a seasoned writer, and his Xena #1 from D.E. is good reading. He is also working on Scarface with IDW, and that will be another chance to check him out. He also has the coolest project ever coming down the pipeline, so keep your eyes peeled.
Ed Brubaker regaled us with some stories that had us rolling. My hubby had a good talk with him about Daredevil, Foggy, Captain America, and Bucky. We are quite anxious for his Icon book Criminal to come out. That will be Brubaker at his finest. Big recommendation here: If you haven’t been reading Brubaker, start. This guy is the real deal.
Jim also got a couple of sketches done by Jason Metcalf. He had him to Starfire for me and a surprise sketch for a friend of his. Metcalf’s work is incredible. I will post his sketch here soon.
Feeling rich in creator conversation, we also proceeded to shop. I am thrilled to death. I got a copy of Wonder Woman #100 from the first series. It is in great shape, and it is a landmark issue. My wonderful husband bought me issue #80 of the same series, and it features the origin of the Invisible Plane. I am definitely in heaven to get these two issues.
Unfortunately, all good things come to an end, so we had to head back home to reality. Jim had to work today, so we left Seattle about 3:15. Happy with the day, but hating to leave we said our goodbyes and headed down the highway.
I wish more people would have attended the con. My worst fear is that this show will go away if not enough of us support it. Please, please, please! If you are ever able, attend the Seattle Comicard Convention. It is a wonderful show, with the best retailers around, and top shelf creators. It is definitely worth the time, so please don’t forget about it! We had a wonderful time, and are willing to share!
Thursday, August 03, 2006
Please remember that if you are going to be in the Seattle area on Saturday to check out the Seattle Comicard Convention. It isn't huge like Wizard World Chicago will be, but the intimacy and the suberb buying opportunities make it a home run. Good people = good times.
If you aren't reading Paul Dini's new run on Detective Comics, you are missing out on some of the most outstanding work out there right now. Go grab a copy and give it a look. I promise you won't be disapointed.
Take care and have a wonderful next few days!
Tuesday, August 01, 2006
Check out these guests too!
These fine gentlemen are all listed on the flyer. How exciting is that? Talk about your who's who in the biz! Check out the website for the Seattle show!
If you get a chance, head over to the show on Saturday. It should be incredible! Imagine the chance to shop and meet your favorite creators without too heavy of a line and too much crowding. Nirvana.